Hi Normhart,
I am sorry you think I am whining about T:ANE but we all try to make sessions that are prototypical as far as possible and there are shortcomings in all versions. In TZ12 11-19 Intermodal I had to add an invisible Loco at the back of the player train to allow it to get up the Pass. That is because engine spec's are a long way from the actual power curves of steam, diesel and electric locomotives.
In a new session under development I was encouraged by Owen to make the drive as realistic as possible. We intended to move a 14700 ton coal train from Cheyenne to Laramie using diesel power. We opted for Jointed rail payware locomotives because they are very close to the prototypical power curves for the class 1 loco's in TZ12. The plan was to make the driver manage his train using the throttle and the power output indicated on the cab ammeter.
Based on the power calculation the train would need 11.4 class 1's to haul the coal over the 2.4% gradients at 25mph. I deliberately underpowered the train to force the driver to really drive up the hill and I provided only 10 class 1's.
In TZ12 that worked perfectly, reducing the throttle when overheating was reported and down to 18mph at some steep grades. Then because we have one eye on T:ANE I imported the short starter session into T:ANE and the 10 loco's plus 14,700 tons attempted to beat all speed records before getting out of The yard at Cheyenne. The power output for all locomotives including the steam I tried were very wrong and to cap it off the cab mode is not stable. If you start a session in cab (realistic) mode and get some amps flowing and then pause (P key) and the P key again to continue the ammeter is at zero. Added to those minor irritations you can stopp the 14 thousand tons plus on the hill and start off on full throttle with no sand and the there is no wheelslip so the tool Trev999 kindly produced for TZIT becomes redundant.
I do feel that this is a legitimate case to present to both the supplier of the locomotives and the game maker because we all want to get the best and most realistic performance out of T:ANE. I believe we will get there and I do really like a great deal of what I see in T:ANE but I want to make my future session compatible with T:ANE, TZ12 and TZ2 MAC for the foreseeable future and at the moment both T:ANE for PC and TS2 are not performing like TZ12 b61388.
That is the end of my whining and on a more positive note I do have some speeders from the DLS, I also collected all the MoW vehicles I could find because I was planning on a track maintenance session somewhere on Sherman Hill with the supply trains bringing rails and ballast to the work crews. I noticed you cheated on WP&Y with the Snow Blower as it is actually a standard gauge machine but it still looks good for static display on the route and it is in the list.
My installed collection for planning that session is quite long and not all appropriate for Sherman Hill but you might be interested: -
- Flatbox40ft Generic MOW #,<kuid2:439337:101652:1>
- Flatcar50ft Generic MoW hw#,<kuid2:439337:101658:1>
- Flatcar50ft MPX MOW s#,<kuid2:56063:180767:2>
- Gondola 50ft Generic MOW #wM,<kuid2:439337:101659:1>
- Gondola 50ft Generic MOW1 #wM,<kuid2:439337:101676:1>
- MN MOW BoxCar 01,<kuid2:523:133333:1>
- MN MOW GATX,<kuid2:523:100955:1>
- MOW drillcar,<kuid2:119692:800994:1> Narrow Gauge
- MOW loomer,<kuid2:119692:800999:1>
- MOW loomerrear,<kuid2:119692:800991:1>
- MOW loomer truck1,<kuid2:119692:800997:1>
- MOW loomer truck2,<kuid2:119692:800995:1>
- MOW masttransporter,<kuid2:119692:800993:1>
- MoW Rail Crane Transporter,<kuid2:439337:100702:1>
- MoW Rail Sleeper Transporter,<kuid2:439337:100704:1>
- MoW Rail Transporter,<kuid2:439337:100703:1>
- MoW Rail Transporter Empty,<kuid2:439337:100705:1> Faulty
- MOW rolling stock1,<kuid2:119692:30:1> rail crane transporter
- MOW rolling stock2,<kuid2:119692:802:1> sleeper crane transporter
- MOW rolling stock3,<kuid2:119692:20058:1> rail transporter
- MOW rolling stock4,<kuid2:119692:20057:1> sleeper transporter
- MOW rolling stock5,<kuid2:119692:20055:1> rail transporter empty Faulty
- MOW Rotary_Plow,<kuid2:46819:6:1>
- MOW servicecar,<kuid2:119692:800992:1>
- MoW Sleeper Crane Transporter,<kuid2:439337:100694:1>
- MoW Steel Combine,<kuid:439337:101678>
- MOW track cleaner,<kuid2:119692:5000:1>
- MoW Track Layer Front,<kuid2:439337:100696:1>
- MOW track layer front,<kuid2:119692:800:1>
- MoW Track Layer Rear,<kuid2:439337:100695:1>
- MOW track layer rear,<kuid2:119692:801:1>
- Plasser and Theurer MoW Tamper,<kuid2:439337:100623:1>
- Plasser and Theurer MoW Track Grinder,<kuid2:439337:100706:1>
- Plasser and Theurer MoW Track Maintenance,<kuid2:439337:100701:1>
- Plasser and Theurer MoW Undercutting and Ballast Cleaner End,<kuid2:439337:100697:1>
- Plasser and Theurer MoW Undercutting and Ballast Cleaner Front,<kuid2:439337:100700:1>
- Plasser and Theurer MoW Undercutting and Ballast Cleaner Mid,<kuid2:439337:100699:1>
- Plasser and Theurer MoW Welder,<kuid2:439337:100707:1>
- BNSF Mow Crane truck,<kuid2:97212:1805:2>
- CSX Mow Crane truck,<kuid2:64038:1810:2>
- NS Mow Crane truck,<kuid2:127320:2589:2>
- Speeder Cart Union Pacific DES,<kuid:101046:102066>
- UP Speeder-001,<kuid2:633834:101047:1>
- UP Speeder-002,<kuid2:633834:101053:1>
- UP Speeder-003,<kuid2:633834:101054:1>
- UP Speeder-004,<kuid2:633834:101058:1>
- Speeder Trucks DES,<kuid:101046:102047>
- Trackmobile (Product),<kuid2:101046:101015:1>
- Trackmobile Model 4250 Yard vehicle,<kuid2:101046:101012:1>
- Trackmobile Union Pacific Yard vehicle,<kuid2:101046:101020:1>
- Trackmobile Model 4250 Magnum (static) DES,<kuid:101046:100989>
- MARSZ-D M95a ?Elephant? track vehicle,<kuid:387111:101227>
- MW AT&SF GRAY AIR COMPRESSOR CAR,<kuid:359354:101264>
- MW AT&SF GRAY BUNK CAR,<kuid:359354:101265>
- MW AT&SF GRAY POWER CAR,<kuid:359354:101266>
- MW AT&SF GRAY TOOL CAR 1,<kuid:359354:101267>
- MW AT&SF GRAY TOOL CAR 3,<kuid:359354:101268>
- MW BLUE Gondola ACF 50 Ton,<kuid:359354:101368>
- MW BROWN CWR CENTER FLATCAR,<kuid:359354:101242>
- MW BROWN CWR END FLATCAR,<kuid:359354:101243>
- MW BROWN Gondola ACF 50 Ton,<kuid:359354:101366>
- MW CWR CENTER FLATCAR GREEN,<kuid:359354:101214>
- MW CWR END FLATCAR GREEN,<kuid:359354:101216>
- MW DEEP YELLOW CWR CENTER FLATCAR,<kuid:359354:101235>
- MW DEEP YELLOW CWR END FLATCAR,<kuid:359354:101236>
- MW DEEP YELLOW Gondola ACF 50 Ton,<kuid:359354:101367>
- MW GRAY CWR CENTER FLATCAR,<kuid:359354:101246>
- MW GRAY Gondola ACF 50 Ton,<kuid:359354:101362>
- MW GRAY POWER CAR DATA ONLY,<kuid:359354:101253>
- MW GRAY TOOL CAR 1 DATA ONLY,<kuid:359354:101256>
- MW GRAY TOOL CAR 2 DATA ONLY,<kuid:359354:101255>
- MW GRAY TOOL CAR 3 DATA ONLY,<kuid:359354:101254>
- MW GREEN Gondola ACF 50 Ton (1),<kuid:359354:101363>
- MW GREEN Gondola ACF 50 Ton (2),<kuid:359354:101365>
- MW GREEN Gondola ACF 50 Ton (3),<kuid:359354:101369>
- MW MPMW AIR COMPRESSOR CAR,<kuid:359354:101226>
- MW MPMW BUNK CAR,<kuid:359354:101225>
- MW MPMW POWER CAR,<kuid:359354:101213>
- MW MPMW TOOL CAR 1,<kuid:359354:101211>
- MW MPMW TOOL CAR 2,<kuid:359354:101210>
- MW ORANGE CWR CENTER FLATCAR,<kuid:359354:101239>
- MW ORANGE CWR END FLATCAR,<kuid:359354:101240>
- MW ORANGE Gondola ACF 50 Ton,<kuid:359354:101364>
- MW UPMW AIR COMPRESSOR CAR,<kuid:359354:101227>
- MW UPMW BUNK CAR,<kuid:359354:101224>
- MW UPMW POWER CAR,<kuid:359354:101204>
- MW UPMW TOOL CAR 1,<kuid:359354:101191>
- MW UPMW TOOL CAR 2,<kuid:359354:101200>
- MW UPMW TOOL CAR 3,<kuid:359354:101195>
- MW AT&SF GRAY TOOL CAR 2,<kuid:359354:101269>
- MW GRAY AIR COMPRESSOR CAR DATA ONLY,<kuid:359354:101251>
- MW GRAY BUNK CAR DATA ONLY,<kuid:359354:101252>
- MW GRAY CWR END FLATCAR,<kuid:359354:101247>
- Buckeye Trucks for Crane DES,<kuid:101046:103313>
- Crane Cab & Boom Product ver 1 DES,<kuid:101046:103316>
- Crane Cab & Boom Product ver 2 DES,<kuid:101046:103317>
- Crane Flat No Cab or Boom DES,<kuid:101046:103318>
- Crane Product 1 Red DES,<kuid:101046:101185>
- Crane Product 2 Red DES,<kuid:101046:101193>
- Crane Undec highly weathered non powered DES,<kuid:101046:103320>
- Crane Undec non powered DES,<kuid:101046:103314>
- Crane UP non powered DES,<kuid:101046:103312>
- Flatcar Tender for my Crane UP DES,<kuid:101046:103315>
- Bucyrus Erie 250t Crane
- Crane Gondola,<kuid2:60238:15012:2>
Messaggio modificato da DennR, 13 gennaio 2016 - 10:29